Hi everyone, Post-Dispatch reporter Daniel Guerrero here. Welcome to today’s Cardinals chat at STL Today dot com. We’re rapidly approaching the end of the first month of the MLB season. The Cardinals got swept in a four-game set against the Mets and enter today 9-13 as they get set to open a three-game series in Atlanta. What do you all want to talk about?
Side note: I'll have a transcript of the chat below to make it easier to read. I should be able to update that periodically.
Ken: أغر؟´«أ½ we have a problem….. Daniel I don’t think this is a Road club. This has been brutal. I know they ran into some good pitching but something has to give. What do see as the answer?
Guerrero: Yes, it has been a tough road stretch to begin the year. The Cardinals are 1-9 on the road with a series against the Red Sox, Pirates, and Mets. The Braves await them tonight. What’s interesting to me is that the lone road win came in Pittsburgh against Paul Skenes, whom the Cardinals have had success against during the start of his career. Based on what we’ve seen when the Cardinals are playing away from Busch Stadium, the offense has taken a dip on the road. As a whole, the Cardinals enter today with the sixth-best team OPS (.732) and tied for eighth in runs scored. At home, Cardinals hitters have an OPS of .827 — that’s the third-best home OPS in MLB — but that figure drops to .623 while on the road.ج
Blue Louie: it seems the birds have a surplus of young good position players, and could use a more stealth backup of relief pitchers. Do you see the Cards trading any of those to improve the pitching staff
Guerrero: For a club in a “reset/transition†that is looking to give young players opportunities to grow and develop in the majors, I don’t see this happening. I wouldn’t expect any young pieces to be moved. Though I get what you’re saying. The Cardinals have a more youthful bullpen, and some of the players they are looking at who could take a step forward in their development to be a part of their future are in that bullpen. Ryan Fernandez and JoJo Romero come to mind in that mix.
Ken: Maybe they go through the roster and play the players with the best road splits.
Guerrero: That approach would be difficult considering the Cardinals are looking to give runway to their young everyday players. Benching one of those young players on the road based on splits wouldn’t help with the goal of development in the majors that the organization feels will be beneficial in the long run. When it comes to personnel, I don’t think the Cardinals are going to change their approach on the road. I think this issue is just a case of figuring out what needs to happen to take that home offense with them.
Bigguy00: Except for Pujols and a guy or two they gave away the Cards haven’t developed a power hitter in years? Do you think DeWitt will spend the money to get one when this closeted rebuild is over? I see no one in the system.
Guerrero: Although he wasn’t on that Pujols level (because so few hitters in all of baseball have reached that level) and not a home run type of power guy, I’d argue that Matt Carpenter was the last prominent bat the Cardinals drafted and got to the majors. At the moment, there aren’t a ton of pure power guys in the system that really stand out. Don’t get me wrong, there are some intriguing bats like top prospect JJ Wetherholt. He has one of the top-rated hit tools in minor league baseball and produces some strong hard-hit data, but could be more of a hit for average guys with 20-homer potential. Baseball America rated Wetherholt as the best power hitter in the system entering this year. For a moment, Joshua Baez (2nd round pick in 2021) looked like he could be a power bat, but he’s struggled with swing-and-miss. He’s 21 and hasn’t advanced beyond High-A. Chase Davis (1st round pick in 2023) is one prospect with some above-average raw power to keep an eye on and has reached Double-A.
AJ in NoVA: How successful would the Cardinals have to be in 2025 for the team to move from their transition/developmental mindset to a win now mindset (i.e. add players at the deadline)? Would it require the team to spend a substantial portion of the season at leading the division or would being close suffice?
Guerrero: Cardinals players and coaches will tell you they’re trying to win now despite the talk of the reset/transition from ownership and the front office. But because of the way the organization has talked about overhauling the minor league system and producing in-house talent, and seeing them do that with special advisor Chaim Bloom and the cast that’s been brought in around him, I don’t think the approach from ownership would rapidly shift to a build from within mindset to adding with big splashes immediately based on some success in 2025.ج
Bryan C: Thomas Saggese has hit at every level he has played. Now he is hitting in ST Louis. When Winn comes back what position will Saggese be starting at? Does hitting still play?
Guerrero: This could be quite a tricky decision. My P-D teammate (and friend) Lynn Worthy recently wrote about the Saggese situation.
Guerrero: When Winn is back, it really wouldn’t come as a shocker to me if Saggese is returned to Triple-A. Even though he is hitting the ball really well right now, there needs to be a guarantee of regular playing time for him in the majors. If he is going to be limited in at-bats in the majors with the current roster, he should be getting at-bats in Memphis to continue developing. Remember, the Cardinals are still looking to get at-bats for Nolan Gorman, and that could prove tricky with both Saggese and Gorman on the roster when Winn is back. Getting sent down would be a tough spot for Saggese with how well he’s hit, but I imagine the decision will be one made with long-term ramifications in mind.
South City Steve: It's April 21st so there's plenty of time, but to me it looks like we have a roster of players to "build with" (Donovan, Winn, etc.) but not really anyone I would say you "build around." More importantly, positionally, assuming they move Arenado eventually, aside from Winn I don't see anyone who should block this team from making a big move next winter i.e. Walker, Gorman, Nootbaar, etc..
Guerrero: I think there’s a case to be made that you can build around Masyn Winn if he continues to be a star defender and his bat follows along. But I recognize that he isn’t a middle-of-the-order presence that would be traditionally the centerpiece of an offense. Also, I wouldn’t be so quick to say the guys you listed would be a part of any big moves next winter. Yes, Arenado is one that would still be on the move if the club is still looking to shed payroll, open opportunities for younger guys, and find a spot that Arenado approves of. But the rest are guys they seem to be counting on moving forward. There’s still a lot of season left, so it’s all TBD on what they offer. Still, I wouldn’t be so quick to say those guys could be on the move.
DCG: DG, Jr: Boy, it's sad to say, but I don't think Jordan Walker's gonna make it. It's now MLB attempt 3, and he has all of three extra base hits in 80 plate appearances. His April numbers (which encompass all but the first three games)--wow. Sub-.600 OPS. Striking out about 37% of the time. It's not good. Derrick Goold has pointed out numerous times that guys his size are few in the history of the game, and the most recent example, Judge, was in the minors through age 25. So, he was failing and learning and progressing there, while Walker was rushed up and is failing badly and trying to learn at the highest level. I don't--it feels like the Cardinals have screwed up this guy's career at every turn.
Guerrero: I’ll refrain from any “DG, Jr.†jokes for the moment. Lol. But to your comment, Walker also continues to be an interesting player because of the things you mentioned and some of the other things we see. The bat speed is there. He can produce hard contact. He’s improved as a defender at a position he didn’t play until August 2022. The projection with his size and strength is all there. He’s just 22 years old. But, aside from what I would say was a quality finish to 2023 following turbulence to begin the season, we haven’t really seen that all turn into consistent production in the majors. In spring 2023, I was among the people who felt Walker had earned a MLB roster spot out of camp and felt getting him to the majors was the right thing, given how advanced he was as a hitter for his age. But I also see how that may have created different variables for his development. Perhaps giving him a run in Triple-A to begin the year would have been a better long-term plan. When the Cardinals said they were going to hit the reset button and give young players opportunities in the majors, I thought Walker was going to be one of the ones who benefited most. His start has been slow. But this is baseball, we have an entire season still to go, and I think we’ll learn more about who Walker can be by the end of it.ج
Tackleberry: DG - I don’t think he was saying move those 3 guys, but don’t use their presence as a reason not to upgrade in the OF.
Guerrero: Thanks for pointing that out. Now that I read that back I see where I missed the point.
Guerrero: With that being clarified, I think Winn is the most secure at his spot. Though, I still don't see the Cardinals making any big moves next winter that wouldn't stick with the direction ownership announced at the start of this past offseason. Sure, if we learn that the players you listed aren't going to be the key pieces the organization thought they could be, I don't think there'd be an immediate pivot to make a big move that'd overtake their spots entirely.
jackjmn: Pls ask Derrick how he sets up the chat so that the full transcript appears below the chat interface. Reading the text in the chat interface is really challenging
Guerrero: A transcript will be dropped in soon.
DCG: I get that position, but I feel like the Cardinals have kind of trapped themselves in a corner by starting him in the majors this season. Basically, sending him down at some point now seems like a bigger failure than if they had started him at AAA out of spring training. So, I think they feel the pressure to keep him up at the major league level even if he is spiraling. Don't get me wrong--I'm desperately rooting for the guy. If he doesn't make it, that's a big blow to the rebuilding process. I just think it's so tough for a guy to learn at the MLB level when it's clear there's a book on how to pitch him that he's note ready to adjust to. It's just seems like setting him up to fail.
Guerrero: I’m in the same thinking as you that sending down Walker would be a bad sign for the approach they wanted to take with young players this season. Like I said, I think he was one of the young players that this shift was going to be best for. But I never once thought Walker was going to begin the year in Triple-A. It’s always felt like his spot was solidified and will be solidified in this process. However, I do recognize what that comes with. These players are all human beings, and the major leagues are is difficult place to learn and improve if you’re struggling.ج
Mike in KC: I think someone could argue that Nolan Gorman is a Cardinals developed power hitter. 20+ HR/season isn't something to sneeze at and is comparable to HR output of Carpenter. It's all the other things like K-rate, OPS, etc., that don't compare.
Guerrero: That’s an interesting way to look at it, especially considering there can be a tradeoff of strikeouts for home runs. But, as you noted, those tradeoffs have held Gorman back.
DCG: It's getting harder and harder to see how an Arenado trade could develop without an injury to a contending team. The Yankees are off to a good start and don't need him--they're averaging 5.5 runs/game. Arenado's doubts about Houston seem well-founded. They don't look like a contender. San Diego is rolling. The Dodgers don't need him. If the Cardinals season continues to head south, do you see Arenado expanding his list? I can't seem him wanting to languish with a non-contender after all those years in Colorado, and I think seeing the reality of the Cardinals' pitching situation has to convince him that this team isn't going to be a quick turnaround.
Guerrero: I’m not sure if that list expands, and if it does, I’m also not sure how much. Part of me just doesn’t feel Arenado would accept a trade to a spot he isn’t fully excited to be in.ج
bo: i found the post dispatch article regarding the gap between the Mets and cards a bit odd. This Mets team is not a roster based on development , they like any of the teams successful in MLB this year are based on signing key free agents to supplement the roster which is what the cards front office has completely failed. Until ownership is willing to fork out real money the team will continue to struggle even with developmental players.
Guerrero: If this is about the latest article by Derrick Goold to wrap up the four-game set in New York, I don’t think Goold was trying to imply the rosters are similar in how they were constructed in terms of the talent being in-house. I understood it as the gaps between the big-market, big-payroll club filled with stars showed the holes in a transitioning club, regardless of how that roster makeup came together whether that be through drafting/developing, trades, or free agency.ج
Myronjax: Good day sir, and thank you for your time in these chats. Re: Tink Hence. How long do you think the organization goes with him as a starter before looking at him as a reliever only? He can't seem to stay healthy as a starter-it's not a question of stuff. His stuff plays, but not if he's always hurt. I'd rather see him get the Ryan Helsley 1 inning treatment than see the 2nd coming of Alex Reyes. I now that's a road that you don't want to go down, but....
Guerrero: I still think Hence will be on a starter’s path when he gets back from the rib cage strain that put him on the IL to start the year, but for how long is unknown. I’d expect his return, whenever that is, to require him to build up in games as if it were spring training. The health concerns have been apparent through his minor league career. He has been one of the organization’s top prospects for a while, and there is hope he can be a key piece to the rotation in the future.ج
DCG: I think the idea of sending down a successful player, one who would have been on the opening day roster if Arenado had been moved, is lame. First, I don't buy the idea that i's bad for a young player to earn ABs off the bench. You cited Matt Carpenter. That's how he started. Same for Allen Craig, Schumaker, John Jay, and any number of players. If this season is about finding out who can play and who can't, I don't think you send down a guy who is showing he can play. He can play multiple positions, so find a spot for him.
Guerrero: I understand where you’re coming from. I think sending down someone who has played well is lame. I also think not playing a young player like Saggese regularly would also be lame. Like you said, Saggese is on the opening day roster if an Arenado trade had been made. As it’s been discussed before, Saggese would have slid into that utility role with Nolan Gorman at third base, and he would have had regular playing time. I just don’t think it's as easy to find a spot for Saggese if you’re still looking to get at-bats for Gorman with Arenado also here. And if that’s the case, Saggese getting 10 at-bats a week isn’t it. The way I’m looking at this is, if you’re still looking to find out what Gorman can offer and put Saggese in a spot that will guarantee he continues developing, then the tough move to demote Saggese might be the route the Cardinals take.ج
JW Help: I know it isn’t much of a runway but I am tired of watching Gorman and Walker taking really dumb ABs Will we ever see Matt Koperniak get a sh
Guerrero: In short, yes, I think we see Koperniak get a shot at some point. What that looks like and how we get there is TBD. As we know, that fourth outfielder role is currently held down by Michael Siani, who has been used as a defensive closer and pinch runner. Koperniak offers a different profile since he is a bat-first type of player.ج
Bryan C: Why do some reporters talk about the Cardinals home grown roster like it is something good? Most fans do not care where the players come from as long as the Cardinals are winning and playing exciting baseball. Example Ozzie Smith, Jim Edmonds, Willie McGee, Lou Brock, Jack Clark and many more. Pitcher Chris Carpenter, Joaquin Andujar, Bruce Sutter, Kyle Lohse, along with Lance Berkman, Rafael Furcal and more.
Guerrero: Just speaking for myself, a part of that thought process is recognizing the direction the Cardinals are going in by investing in player development. If that is where the organization says they are investing, while other clubs spend big money in free agency, then seeing those homegrown players reach the majors and seeing what they become on an individual basis and as a core is important in assessing where the club is at and if their methods are working. I’m not necessarily saying an all-homegrown roster is “good†or bad, but rather I’m saying that looking at where the talent comes from, with knowledge of what the organization’s goals helps paint a better picture of this club as a whole.
Phil: If the team doesn't turn things around, does Marmol make it through the season, or could you see him being relieved of duties mid-season just to make clear a shakeup is coming, even if a new manager isn't chosen until the offseason when Chaim Bloom fully takes over and a few more names might become available? Not suggesting Marmol is doomed already, but he's gotta have one of baseball's hottest seats, and this year's continuing inability to develop so many of their most-heralded young hitters sure isn't helping his case. I wonder if the FO could jump-start the recapturing of fan interest by finally making a proactive move that like instead of their years-long trend of seeming content to sit in neutral and wait for decisions to be made for them.
Guerrero: This may be an unpopular way of thinking about this, but I just don’t see the Cardinals, with John Mozeliak in his final year as the president of baseball operations, making a managerial change mid-season.ج
DCG: Btw, small sample size of 12 games, but JJ is raking at AA. Just below a 1.000 OPS. What do you think the timeline is for him? Half a season there, the second half in AAA? Banging on the MLB roster coming out of spring training next year?
Guerrero: Wetherholt’s timeline could be sped up based on how advanced he is coming out of the college ranks. I think there’s a scenario where he reached Class AA this year. And that is one that I think would be best if the organization feels his timeline to reach the majors could be as early as next year. I know earlier in this chat we talked about a former top prospect (Jordan Walker) skipping Triple-A. With Wetherholt, my thinking is that getting him some Triple-A reps this year would help provide extra experience if he knocks on the big-league door next spring. And of course, this is all assuming he continues playing well.
JW Help: If the Cardinals are below 500 at the deadline they are going to have to make some moves There pitching is to thin to get rid of much pitching. They need prospects. The next few seasons are going to be long even if we don’t call this a rebuild. We have to cycle through the no trade con
Guerrero: If the Cardinals are sellers and starting pitchers like Steven Matz and Erick Fedde — both free agents at the end of the year — attract buyers, I think making moves like those would certainly make the pitching thinner, but also open doors for young players. Getting prospects in return would be a plus, but if there are young starters like Michael McGreevy knocking on the door and waiting for a spot to open, I think those deals would align with the team’s efforts of a reset/transition.
ICCFIM: We are 22 games in and the team is not playing that badly. The bullpen has been worse than expected. There are is some promise in the line-up. There is also a playing time squeeze coming up in the infield. Do you foresee a trade during the season to ease that squeeze? How do the Cardinals replenish the pitching depth? The trades from two years ago do not seem to have accomplished that. Are there arms within 2 yeas that can help or are the Cards in a several year pitching deficit situation?
Guerrero: On the infield, I don’t think there’s a trade I would necessarily foresee in the sense that it is on the horizon or guaranteed to happen. The only infield move that would free up space to “ease that squeeze†would be moving Arenado. That proved to be difficult over the winter and could be difficult to pull off in-season given the nature of Arenado’s contract (salary and no-trade clause), but not impossible. On the pitching depth, a way that could happen is if the Cardinals get returns on pitching if deals are made in other areas, like from the starting pitching side as previously mentioned, and in the bullpen if veterans like Phil Maton or Ryan Helsley are moved. The arms on the horizon that could help have some question marks because of injury. Three key prospects (Quinn Mathews, Tink Hence, and Cooper Hjerpe) have gone down with injuries. Mathews (left shoulder) has a TBD for his timeline. Hence is out with a right rib cage strain. There wasn’t much clarity offered on Hence’s timeline when I asked about it. Hjerpe underwent Tommy John and isn't expected back until midway through 2026. One arm that could arrive in the majors within the next two years that we haven't seen is Tekoah Roby. He’s at Double-A and showed well in spring training. He was knocked out by injury over the last two years. If you recall, Roby was a part of the prospect haul at the 2023 deadline along with other pitchers that were acquired. We haven’t gotten to see much of Roby because of injuries, but we have seen shows a lot of promise.
Jack: The Springfield "Cashew Chicken" uniforms are really cool. Will these stick around? The Cardinals love their historic "clean" identity, but the minor leagues are a great place for stuff like this
Guerrero: They are cool and fun, which I think baseball, at the majors and minor leagues, needs more of. I know those are the alternate identity jerseys, so I imagine they could stick around for a while. However, I don’t think Springfield would ever just change from being the Springfield Cardinals to being the Springfield Cashew Chicken full-time. Like you said, there’s too much tradition (and brand recognition) to change from that identity.ج
Ken M: We knew going in what this season would be about, and that’s fine. What is the plan for next season?
Guerrero: This is something I expect we’ll learn more about once the season ends and Chaim Bloom officially takes over as the president of baseball operations. Aside from last season’s end-of-year press conference, we haven’t heard much from Bloom. I think we’ll see the continuation of the player development model he’s reformed. This past spring, the current president of baseball operations John Mozeliak described the changes with the added staffing in the minors as the “major heavy lifting†to bulk their farm system. I’d expect there to be more developments on the minor league side.
Millo Miller: Daniel, warm greetings this Monday. Rough weekend for the Cards. Must win 2 of 3 in Atlanta. Getting swept puts them in a big hole. We all know what this year is about. See what you have and move forward. The Cardinals have some very good pieces in place. Being a Cardinal fan of 50 plus years, what I fear going forward is player retention. I know it needs to be a 2 way street here, but with the current economics of baseball are the DeWitt's willing to lock up young talent like some teams are doing? We know what Mo has said, but have heard nothing specific from the DeWitts. Are the Cardinals becoming an organization that will draft, develop, and when said player hits free agency let the market set the value and then decide if they want to retain the player. It's becoming very easy to see the Cardinals becoming a feeder team for the rich franchises. What is your take on all this? Should the DeWitts come forward and say what the business model looks like going forward? I get a feeling from a lot of Cardinal fans that trust in ownership is a big question. Thanks Daniel.
Guerrero: When it comes to locking up young talent, I think what we see this year could help build a foundation for in terms of seeing what pieces are going to be the major ones moving forward. Like, you aren’t going to have talks of locking up talent for the future when you’re still in the process of seeing what you have, right?. Sure, there are some players (Brendan Donovan, most notably) who we’ve seen a bit of and have a good sense of the quality of player he can be at the MLB level. Much of this roster on the position player side is still very young in sort of that “growing and learning in the majors†phase of their careers. I don’t think the Cardinals will become a feeder team in the same way that other clubs (let’s say the Rays, for example) are. I think there will be interest in keeping their in-house talent in-house. How strong that interest is and how aggressive it is is TBA though.
Ken: I know you’re right Daniel and that’s the plan but…. It’s going to be a looong season ( couple of years ).
Guerrero: Once again, the GIFs aren't working. *sigh
Guerrero:جJust for transparency, it was a bored Fozzy Bear GIF I wanted to use.
Mike: Until someone shows out strong, how about Gorman, Burlison. Walker , and Saggese each getting about 4 starts a week ?
Guerrero: You know, this sounded like a scenario I thought we would see regularly this year based on the reset talk over the winter.ج
Botch405: Daniel, thanks for the chat. Perhaps you can explain to me why the Cardinals seem to be determined that Gorman get 500 PA, even though he seems to be showing that contact is a real problem and the pitchers are feasting off him, but he's young so we have to see what we have. OTOH, Saggese, who is hitting .400 against the same pitchers has to be sent to Memphis so he can play every day. Why not keep Saggese and ride him until his production falters and see what we have in him and let Gorman get his 500 PA in Memphis and, maybe, actually, learn what the pitchers are doing to him and how to actually touch the ball with his bat. Please enlighten me. Thanks!
Guerrero: One of the things that I’ve looked at this with is that we’ve seen Nolan Gorman produce a 27-homer season in the majors. Even with a high strikeout rate that year (31.9%), Gorman showed that power potential while in the majors in his age-23 season. I think you want to see Gorman get that runway because you have seen one side of what it could look like. What Saggese has done has been strong. He’s hit at every level and in different organizations. It will be a tough decision no matter what the Cardinals do.ج
Bryan C: I don't care what Mo or Bill calls this year. When the Cardinals are not trying to win it hurts the attendance and the Cardinal legacy. Kids want to follow exciting winning teams. I wonder if the Cardinals will ever get back to the 3 million in attendance? Maybe if one of their give aways are FREE tickets to upcoming games? What do you think about the fans returning?
Guerrero: Bring a friend days, anyone?
Guerrero: Ok, on a serious note. I think eventually fans will be back with consistency if the Cardinals' plan goes well and the club returns to consistent results after a bad 2023 and an 83-win season in 2024. Regardless, we’ll get those big crowds for opening day, or Cubs-Cardinals games, or holiday weekends. At the moment, you can’t hide how empty the ballpark feels. Maybe weather plays a role, but it’s obvious the fanbase is speaking. They have every right to. In reality, the Cardinals are a business. They’ve made some noticeable changes (or I would call improvements) with the in-stadium experience. Take the new graphics and stats shown on the video boards as one. I think that helps with fan engagement for the game and, in a way, helps teach more about the game in an age when these metrics are all the rage. Obviously, the biggest strides the club could make to get fans to the ballpark would be on the field. As it is said, winning solves everything.
CrampyCrampaneris: Well, that sucks. 2024 is back, but with a diminished bullpen. RiSP bottoming out since hot start to
Guerrero: You know, I felt like the youth in that bullpen could show. Just like we knew coming into this year on the position player side, there will be some growing pains with the youngsters on the relief side.ج
DickyD: Daniel, it seems the cardinals with their reluctance to go all young have sent a weird message to fans, we wi try to win enough to keep you happy, the correct course is swallow hard play the kids and Trace the vets - you can’t straddle the fence see the Phillies from 2012-2015
Guerrero: Interesting that you chose the Phillies and that period as an example, considering where the Phillies are now — NL powerhouse with stars acquired through splashy free agent deals (Harper, Turner, Schwarber, Castellanos, and Wheeler), trades (Realmuto), and by drafting and developing (Nola and Stott).ج
Joe 99: Hello, thanks for the chats. In trying to understand MLB's complicated lottery rules and whether the Cardinals could qualify for a top pick in 2026, assuming they finish poorly this year. The confusing part is that a "revenue sharing recipient" cannot have consecutive years with a top 10 (or is it top 6?) pick? I probably have that wrong but there are some kind of cutoffs for top-6 and top-10. Bottom line, are the Cardinals considered a recipient of revenue sharing or do they 'donate?' And could they get another top-5 or -6 pick next year in your understanding if they finish poorly?
Guerrero: So, from my understanding, revenue sharing recipients, or “payees,†can’t receive a lottery pick three years in a row. A team that is a non-payee can’t receive lottery selections in consecutive years. The cutoff would be getting a lottery pick within the top 10. I saw another report that the Cardinals would be ineligible to land a pick within the top 10 for the 2026 draft if they have a record that would put them in the lottery system.
Guerrero: Alright, I think we’ll end the chat there. Thanks for the participation. And, as always, thanks for your readership. Derrick Goold is in Atlanta to cover the three-game series that begins tonight between the Cardinals and Braves. Check later tonight for our instant coverage and tomorrow morning for a story fresh to STL Today dot com with comments from the postgame. Thanks again. Have a great week. — Daniel Guerrero
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